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		<title>By: Dwayne Charles Hart</title>
		<link>http://www.sagwatch.net/june-2008-pre-blog/comment-page-1/#comment-9147</link>
		<dc:creator>Dwayne Charles Hart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 21:11:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been reading the numerous blogs on this site and a few others concerning the SAG crisis. Many BTL techs, artists and support people, feel that those people of MEMBERSHIP first and the SAG leadership fail to recognize the environment they have created.

Many BTL and support people are in serious financial straights partially because of the economy in general but the WGA strike and the SAG stagnate negotiatiions on their contracts. They have abandoned their support for SAG and have no sympathy. 
 
I have talked to many who have lost their homes, can&#039;t pay their utilities and standard of living has disintegrated into poverty because of this stalemate. It&#039;s disgusting to read the comments from people who support a no vote against the contract. They seem to be comfortable and believe they can withstand a strike for any length of time. They have blinders on not wanting to see the fallout from their inept negotiations, absurd leadership and selfish reasoning that is destroying SAG but the rest of the industry as whole.

SAG has the best contract of any of the unions, even in its present form and the proposed one from AMPTP. An authorization to strike and subsequent execution thereof, many predict SAG will be memory by the end of the year. 

As days go by, more and more non SAG people are angered by this situtaion and will withdraw their support for SAG should any strike authorization be fronted.

SAG members should now realize that they need someone who is a professional CEO, one who is NOT an actor but a businessman. It is evident that every SAG president has been more emotional than business savvy which over the last 30 years that union keeps regressing and surrenders its basic philosphy and mission.

A many have said, TAKE THE BEATING. Vote YES for this contract. Create a dialogue with AFTRA and merge, that&#039;s your only way of surving</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been reading the numerous blogs on this site and a few others concerning the SAG crisis. Many BTL techs, artists and support people, feel that those people of MEMBERSHIP first and the SAG leadership fail to recognize the environment they have created.</p>
<p>Many BTL and support people are in serious financial straights partially because of the economy in general but the WGA strike and the SAG stagnate negotiatiions on their contracts. They have abandoned their support for SAG and have no sympathy. </p>
<p>I have talked to many who have lost their homes, can&#8217;t pay their utilities and standard of living has disintegrated into poverty because of this stalemate. It&#8217;s disgusting to read the comments from people who support a no vote against the contract. They seem to be comfortable and believe they can withstand a strike for any length of time. They have blinders on not wanting to see the fallout from their inept negotiations, absurd leadership and selfish reasoning that is destroying SAG but the rest of the industry as whole.</p>
<p>SAG has the best contract of any of the unions, even in its present form and the proposed one from AMPTP. An authorization to strike and subsequent execution thereof, many predict SAG will be memory by the end of the year. </p>
<p>As days go by, more and more non SAG people are angered by this situtaion and will withdraw their support for SAG should any strike authorization be fronted.</p>
<p>SAG members should now realize that they need someone who is a professional CEO, one who is NOT an actor but a businessman. It is evident that every SAG president has been more emotional than business savvy which over the last 30 years that union keeps regressing and surrenders its basic philosphy and mission.</p>
<p>A many have said, TAKE THE BEATING. Vote YES for this contract. Create a dialogue with AFTRA and merge, that&#8217;s your only way of surving</p>
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		<title>By: james mc auley</title>
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		<dc:creator>james mc auley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 07:28:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here are some facts that the slight majority of our National Board has neglected to tell us.

 

Main changes if this contract is voted up;



1. Loss of Residuals - 
   At the day-player scale rate, every actor will lose 
   $2,000.00 for each day they work. They will also, lose 
   14.8% for pension &amp; health($296.00) It will be replaced  
   with $22.77($3.33 for pension and health) for 6 months of 
   streaming on the net. Although this will be bad for each 
   actor on an individual level, can you imagine how fast our 
   pension and health fund will dry up? They are going to show 
   all re-runs on the internet. No more re-runs on TV. There 
   is a lot of room to negotiate between $2,000.00 and $22.77 
   and many of us feel that they can go back to the table and 
   do a better job!



2. Non-Union work in Original Made for New Media Productions -
   Unless the budget is $25,000.00/minute or more(average thus
   far is $2500.00), the producers will use 32 pages of our
   contract full of exclusions and requirements to decide who
   is a &quot;Qualified Performer&quot;. And then, they can produce with
   only that one SAG cast member and the rest of the cast can
   be all Non-Union yet they will want us to call it a SAG
   Production! If voted up, this trend can easily spread to TV
   and Film.



3. Clip Consent - 
   Since 1960, we have had Clip Consent. If a producer wants
   to use one of your clips in a movie, tv show, documentary,
   on the internet, etc., they must first get your permission,
   and then negotiate a price for the use. If this contract is
   voted up, the producers can use your clips &#039;intact&#039; in any
   project they choose(what if the project involves subject
   matter that you are opposed to?). With the current state of
   Computer Generated Images, they can also take you out of
   context and have you doing things you would never have
   consented to do in the first place. They will be able to do
   all of this without your consent, and without paying you.



4. Product Integration - 
   We all know about Product Placement, but if this contract
   passes, we will all become commercial spokespeople for the
   particular products in the tv show or film. If the product
   is Coke, and you are already a Pepsi spokesperson, make a
   choice. You will lose either your Pepsi sponsorship, or that
   roll. You will not be payed for the endorsement of the
   product. You will not receive residuals when they use the
   Clip Consent Clause and take your product endorsement out
   of the project and use it separately as a commercial. And,
   finally, the pool of regular separate commercials necessary 
   to sell products will become smaller because many of us will
   be doing commercials and promoting products as part of our
   artistic expression in a given scene in any given project.



5. Force Majeure -
   Since 1937, this is what protects you once you have been
   booked and you spend many hours learning your part and
   getting into character, and also turning down other 
   lucrative work because you are already booked. If they 
   book you, and production is halted do to a strike, or an
   act of God, or any other reason, they must pay you five
   weeks at half your rate. As of right now, the producers
   owe SAG Actors at least $60,000,000.00 and as much as
   $400,000,000.00 for last years strike. If this contract 
   is voted up, the producers will have to pay only
   $20,000,000.00 total, and, in the future, each member will have 
   to bargain individually for Force Majeure protection. The 
   obvious strength in numbers of the collective bargaining
   of SAG will no longer provide Force Majeure protection.
   If you are not an &#039;A&#039; list actor, good luck!

Why are we being asked to give away protections we&#039;ve had for years, only to fight or strike to get them back in two years? This is nonsense. I can almost understand waiting two years to fight for new things that we don&#039;t yet have. But, when they include giving away protections which were hard fought for, and giving away the residuals of those who fought for them, I have to VOTE NO!

Please share this with any SAG mebers you know



Thank You

james



www.myspace.com/sagstars

Frank &#039;Lumpy&#039; Bank and Ken &#039;Eddie Haskell&#039; Osmond
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Rvx6THsmKA

Rob Schneider
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwluMUKLXdo

Ed Harris
http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/video-ed-harris-explains-vote-no-position/

Martin Sheen
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8_U0GSXPu0

Rhonda De Felice
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLPhjeYvicg

Rico Bueno
Pt1 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jp8BUvZvw0
Pt2 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMBhLES9Uhg
Pt3 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6uTmfE6VUw

Ed Asner
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcgZ4mfSZ4Y

Charles Shaughnessy, Rance Howard, Nancy Sinatra, Anne Ramsay and Esai Morales
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXNJZhwFAQQ</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here are some facts that the slight majority of our National Board has neglected to tell us.</p>
<p>Main changes if this contract is voted up;</p>
<p>1. Loss of Residuals &#8211;<br />
   At the day-player scale rate, every actor will lose<br />
   $2,000.00 for each day they work. They will also, lose<br />
   14.8% for pension &amp; health($296.00) It will be replaced<br />
   with $22.77($3.33 for pension and health) for 6 months of<br />
   streaming on the net. Although this will be bad for each<br />
   actor on an individual level, can you imagine how fast our<br />
   pension and health fund will dry up? They are going to show<br />
   all re-runs on the internet. No more re-runs on TV. There<br />
   is a lot of room to negotiate between $2,000.00 and $22.77<br />
   and many of us feel that they can go back to the table and<br />
   do a better job!</p>
<p>2. Non-Union work in Original Made for New Media Productions -<br />
   Unless the budget is $25,000.00/minute or more(average thus<br />
   far is $2500.00), the producers will use 32 pages of our<br />
   contract full of exclusions and requirements to decide who<br />
   is a &#8220;Qualified Performer&#8221;. And then, they can produce with<br />
   only that one SAG cast member and the rest of the cast can<br />
   be all Non-Union yet they will want us to call it a SAG<br />
   Production! If voted up, this trend can easily spread to TV<br />
   and Film.</p>
<p>3. Clip Consent &#8211;<br />
   Since 1960, we have had Clip Consent. If a producer wants<br />
   to use one of your clips in a movie, tv show, documentary,<br />
   on the internet, etc., they must first get your permission,<br />
   and then negotiate a price for the use. If this contract is<br />
   voted up, the producers can use your clips &#8216;intact&#8217; in any<br />
   project they choose(what if the project involves subject<br />
   matter that you are opposed to?). With the current state of<br />
   Computer Generated Images, they can also take you out of<br />
   context and have you doing things you would never have<br />
   consented to do in the first place. They will be able to do<br />
   all of this without your consent, and without paying you.</p>
<p>4. Product Integration &#8211;<br />
   We all know about Product Placement, but if this contract<br />
   passes, we will all become commercial spokespeople for the<br />
   particular products in the tv show or film. If the product<br />
   is Coke, and you are already a Pepsi spokesperson, make a<br />
   choice. You will lose either your Pepsi sponsorship, or that<br />
   roll. You will not be payed for the endorsement of the<br />
   product. You will not receive residuals when they use the<br />
   Clip Consent Clause and take your product endorsement out<br />
   of the project and use it separately as a commercial. And,<br />
   finally, the pool of regular separate commercials necessary<br />
   to sell products will become smaller because many of us will<br />
   be doing commercials and promoting products as part of our<br />
   artistic expression in a given scene in any given project.</p>
<p>5. Force Majeure -<br />
   Since 1937, this is what protects you once you have been<br />
   booked and you spend many hours learning your part and<br />
   getting into character, and also turning down other<br />
   lucrative work because you are already booked. If they<br />
   book you, and production is halted do to a strike, or an<br />
   act of God, or any other reason, they must pay you five<br />
   weeks at half your rate. As of right now, the producers<br />
   owe SAG Actors at least $60,000,000.00 and as much as<br />
   $400,000,000.00 for last years strike. If this contract<br />
   is voted up, the producers will have to pay only<br />
   $20,000,000.00 total, and, in the future, each member will have<br />
   to bargain individually for Force Majeure protection. The<br />
   obvious strength in numbers of the collective bargaining<br />
   of SAG will no longer provide Force Majeure protection.<br />
   If you are not an &#8216;A&#8217; list actor, good luck!</p>
<p>Why are we being asked to give away protections we&#8217;ve had for years, only to fight or strike to get them back in two years? This is nonsense. I can almost understand waiting two years to fight for new things that we don&#8217;t yet have. But, when they include giving away protections which were hard fought for, and giving away the residuals of those who fought for them, I have to VOTE NO!</p>
<p>Please share this with any SAG mebers you know</p>
<p>Thank You</p>
<p>james</p>
<p><a href="http://www.myspace.com/sagstars" rel="nofollow">http://www.myspace.com/sagstars</a></p>
<p>Frank &#8216;Lumpy&#8217; Bank and Ken &#8216;Eddie Haskell&#8217; Osmond<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Rvx6THsmKA" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Rvx6THsmKA</a></p>
<p>Rob Schneider<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwluMUKLXdo" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwluMUKLXdo</a></p>
<p>Ed Harris<br />
<a href="http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/video-ed-harris-explains-vote-no-position/" rel="nofollow">http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/video-ed-harris-explains-vote-no-position/</a></p>
<p>Martin Sheen<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8_U0GSXPu0" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8_U0GSXPu0</a></p>
<p>Rhonda De Felice<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLPhjeYvicg" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLPhjeYvicg</a></p>
<p>Rico Bueno<br />
Pt1 &#8211; <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jp8BUvZvw0" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jp8BUvZvw0</a><br />
Pt2 &#8211; <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMBhLES9Uhg" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMBhLES9Uhg</a><br />
Pt3 &#8211; <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6uTmfE6VUw" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6uTmfE6VUw</a></p>
<p>Ed Asner<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcgZ4mfSZ4Y" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcgZ4mfSZ4Y</a></p>
<p>Charles Shaughnessy, Rance Howard, Nancy Sinatra, Anne Ramsay and Esai Morales<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXNJZhwFAQQ" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXNJZhwFAQQ</a></p>
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